2023 Toyota 4Runner — buying a car 1,200 miles away without seeing it

Walked a dealership this week on the 2023 Toyota 4Runner (1,200 miles) and the doc fee was the tell. Sleeping on the number either way.

I asked about buying a car 1,200 miles away without again and they still won't put GAP/add-ons on their own lines. Not wiring anything in the meantime.

Get the messy numbers in writing first. GAP, paint, and nitrogen are optional until you run the 2023 Toyota 4Runner numbers without them. Do that before you talk monthly again. On “buying a car 1,200 miles away without,” that was the fork that mattered for me. When does it actually happen? This is the filter I use when the thread starts repeating itself. If GAP is bundled I'm making them unbundle it.

The trap is a pretty payment hiding a worse car price. I would not wire money until I've seen the 2023 Toyota 4Runner and the title situation in person or via a trusted PPI. Then the comparison gets honest. I'd want that in writing, not as a promise. Your commute and mine probably aren't the same, but the test still applies. If they only talk monthly I'm walking.

Get the messy numbers in writing first. GAP, paint, and nitrogen are optional until you run the 2023 Toyota 4Runner numbers without them. If they balk, that's your answer. On “buying a car 1,200 miles away without,” that was the fork that mattered for me. That's the whole play. If GAP is bundled I'm making them unbundle it.

Walk if they won't put it on a buyer’s order. I would not wire money until I've seen the 2023 Toyota 4Runner and the title situation in person or via a trusted PPI. Screenshot the worksheet if you can. Just my two cents from doing this recently. Doc fee is the line I'm watching.