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2004 Toyota Land Cruiser — no crank with full dash power, then it starts later

ColdStartDetailer962Community StarterJul 1, 20262004 Toyota Land CruiserSeattle
2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, about 209,000 miles. Twice I have had full lights and accessories but no crank. After waiting a few minutes it starts normally. Battery terminals look clean. What would you want to measure during the actual failure? If I figure it out I will update the thread.
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CleanGal231Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Intermittent stuff lies if you only catch it once. Two 2004 Toyota Land Cruisers can feel identical and have different causes, so measure before you copy someone else's repair. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. A shop burned me once by skipping that step. Heat soak after errands is the other window.
CommuterNomad729Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Start with the test that can prove you wrong. Capture voltage while the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is actually failing — after it restarts you've lost the clue. That's the branch I'd chase this week. Have you gotten a second quote in writing? Next check is the cheap one I can do in a driveway.
NoMarkupCamper583Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Agree — and I'd add this: Two 2004 Toyota Land Cruisers can feel identical and have different causes, so measure before you copy someone else's repair. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. That's the sequence I'd use. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
ProjectNomad253Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Ask what changed right before it started. Write temp, speed, and in-gear vs coast when the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser does it — then decide on parts. Save the big job until that test fails. Time, temperature, and whether it's in gear are the notes that actually help a shop. If the story changes I'll post the new data.
RoadGarage177Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
I'd push back a little: Write temp, speed, and in-gear vs coast when the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser does it — then decide on parts. That's the branch I'd chase this week. Happy to compare notes if your setup is different. Might be overthinking it, but I'd rather overthink than overspend.
RotorDaily862Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
I wouldn't throw parts yet. Get a real battery/charging test on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, not just resting voltage, before blaming a module. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. A shop burned me once by skipping that step. Worth doing even if the car feels fine right now. Happens in gear, not in park, for what that's worth.
TrailGeek73Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
I wouldn't throw parts yet. Write temp, speed, and in-gear vs coast when the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser does it — then decide on parts. Save the big job until that test fails. If it doesn't change the out-the-door or the repair estimate, it's noise. This is the version I'd tell a friend.
RustBeltGuy896Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Not convinced that's the whole story. If a shop can't duplicate it on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, bring a video plus freeze-frame data, not just a story. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. If they can't show the line item, I assume it's hiding. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
NoMarkupCamper583Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Intermittent stuff lies if you only catch it once. If a shop can't duplicate it on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, bring a video plus freeze-frame data, not just a story. That's the branch I'd chase this week. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. This is from a 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser in Seattle with 209,000 miles. That's the sequence I'd use. If it repeats twice more I'll book time.
ColdStartDetailer962Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Checked the easy stuff on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser and found one clue worth chasing before I book a shop. Not interested in a five-hour wait for a shrug.
PistonCollector78Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Start with the test that can prove you wrong. Write temp, speed, and in-gear vs coast when the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser does it — then decide on parts. Save the big job until that test fails. Happy to compare notes if your setup is different. I'll poke at it this weekend.
ColdStartDetailer962Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
It did no crank with full dash power, then twice this week, both times after sitting. No change in mileage feel. This is the version I'd tell a friend.
ColdStartDetailer962Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
OP update: scanned the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser again and still only have the one pending code, no new lights. Video is ugly but it shows the hesitation.
TorqueCommuter472Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Ask what changed right before it started. A pressure test beats staring at a dry driveway if the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is losing coolant with no puddle. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. Post the numbers (or the code) and people can get more specific. Make the next action something you can finish this week. No warning lights, which is why I'm documenting it.
TorqueCommuter472Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
That's a good start, but I wouldn't stop there. Two 2004 Toyota Land Cruisers can feel identical and have different causes, so measure before you copy someone else's repair. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. Happy to compare notes if your setup is different. I'd rather pay for diagnosis than a second guess-repair.
ShiftFan594Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
If it were in my driveway, if a shop can't duplicate it on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, bring a video plus freeze-frame data, not just a story. Don't erase codes until someone who can help has seen them. This is from a 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser in Seattle with 209,000 miles. If it doesn't change the out-the-door or the repair estimate, it's noise. If the story changes I'll post the new data.
ShiftFan594Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
This is usually cheaper to test than to guess. A pressure test beats staring at a dry driveway if the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is losing coolant with no puddle. Don't erase codes until someone who can help has seen them. I'd want a dollar figure or a measured spec, not 'should be fine.' I'll update if anything new shows up.
CamberDriver892Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Intermittent stuff lies if you only catch it once. Move a coil or plug on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser if it's cylinder-specific and see whether the code follows. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. Do that first. Doing the boring step first on purpose.
ColdStartDetailer962Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Checked the easy stuff on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser and found one clue worth chasing before I book a shop. Trying not to diagnose from the couch.
V8Collector191Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Ask what changed right before it started. Get a real battery/charging test on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, not just resting voltage, before blaming a module. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. Had a similar mess a couple years ago and that's what finally sorted it. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
V8Collector191Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
Log the conditions before you spend. Capture voltage while the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is actually failing — after it restarts you've lost the clue. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. A shop burned me once by skipping that step. Wrote this up on my lunch break.
CommuterNomad729Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 1, 2026permalink
I wouldn't throw parts yet. If a shop can't duplicate it on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, bring a video plus freeze-frame data, not just a story. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. Any freeze-frame data saved? That's my plan before I call anyone.
CleanGal231Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Same neighborhood, different next step: A pressure test beats staring at a dry driveway if the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is losing coolant with no puddle. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. Learned this the expensive way on a previous car. I'd rather be boring and correct. No warning lights, which is why I'm documenting it.
ShiftFan594Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
This is usually cheaper to test than to guess. Move a coil or plug on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser if it's cylinder-specific and see whether the code follows. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. I'd want a dollar figure or a measured spec, not 'should be fine.' This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
TrailGeek73Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Intermittent stuff lies if you only catch it once. A pressure test beats staring at a dry driveway if the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is losing coolant with no puddle. You'll know quickly if you're on the wrong tree. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. This is from a 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser in Seattle with 209,000 miles. If it doesn't change the out-the-door or the repair estimate, it's noise. Not driving it hard until I know more.
ColdStartDetailer962Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
OP update: scanned the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser again and still only have the one pending code, no new lights. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
CleanGal231Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
I'd want a measurement, not a hunch. If a shop can't duplicate it on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser, bring a video plus freeze-frame data, not just a story. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. A shop burned me once by skipping that step. I'm in no rush to be a hero on it.
TorqueCommuter472Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Log the conditions before you spend. Loaded-suspension checks on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser catch play that a wheels-hanging inspection misses. Don't erase codes until someone who can help has seen them. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. If you share a photo of the worksheet, easier to sanity-check. Not driving it hard until I know more.
V8Collector191Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
I wouldn't throw parts yet. Capture voltage while the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is actually failing — after it restarts you've lost the clue. Don't erase codes until someone who can help has seen them. A shop burned me once by skipping that step. Worth doing even if the car feels fine right now. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
RoadGarage177Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
If it were in my driveway, a pressure test beats staring at a dry driveway if the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is losing coolant with no puddle. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. This is from a 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser in Seattle with 209,000 miles. If you share a photo of the worksheet, easier to sanity-check. Doing the boring step first on purpose.
RoadGarage177Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
This is usually cheaper to test than to guess. Move a coil or plug on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser if it's cylinder-specific and see whether the code follows. Don't erase codes until someone who can help has seen them. This is from a 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser in Seattle with 209,000 miles. If you share a photo of the worksheet, easier to sanity-check. No warning lights, which is why I'm documenting it.
V8Collector191Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Start with the test that can prove you wrong. Loaded-suspension checks on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser catch play that a wheels-hanging inspection misses. That's the branch I'd chase this week. Learned this the expensive way on a previous car. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
ShiftFan594Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
I'd want a measurement, not a hunch. Move a coil or plug on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser if it's cylinder-specific and see whether the code follows. Save the big job until that test fails. If it doesn't change the out-the-door or the repair estimate, it's noise. I'd sleep better after that step, even if it finds nothing. Heat soak after errands is the other window.
BoxerShopper534Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Quick add on that: Loaded-suspension checks on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser catch play that a wheels-hanging inspection misses. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. Any freeze-frame data saved? No warning lights, which is why I'm documenting it.
CommuterHunter375Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Ask what changed right before it started. Capture voltage while the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is actually failing — after it restarts you've lost the clue. That's the branch I'd chase this week. I'd want a dollar figure or a measured spec, not 'should be fine.' A day of patience here is cheaper than a wrong part. Heat soak after errands is the other window.
ShiftFan594Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
Log the conditions before you spend. A pressure test beats staring at a dry driveway if the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is losing coolant with no puddle. That's the branch I'd chase this week. On “no crank with full dash power, then,” that was the fork that mattered for me. I'd want a dollar figure or a measured spec, not 'should be fine.' I'd rather look cautious in this thread than stuck later.
NoMarkupCamper583Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
If it were in my driveway, move a coil or plug on the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser if it's cylinder-specific and see whether the code follows. If the cheap test changes it, stop and reassess. This is from a 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser in Seattle with 209,000 miles. That's the sequence I'd use. Video is ugly but it shows the hesitation.
CommuterDriver262Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 3, 2026permalink
Same neighborhood, different next step: A pressure test beats staring at a dry driveway if the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is losing coolant with no puddle. That's the branch I'd chase this week. That's the whole play. I'll update if anything new shows up.
RotorDaily862Community StarterCommunity StarterJul 2, 2026permalink
This is usually cheaper to test than to guess. Capture voltage while the 2004 Toyota Land Cruiser is actually failing — after it restarts you've lost the clue. That's the branch I'd chase this week. Had a similar mess a couple years ago and that's what finally sorted it. Only after sitting overnight so far.
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