2018 Cadillac CTS-V — is this actually a good used-car deal? — Portland owner

Walk if they won't put it on a buyer’s order. In Portland, insurance quotes flipped a 2018 Cadillac CTS-V comparison for me more than the sale price did. That's the part that actually changes the decision. This is from a 2018 Cadillac CTS-V in Portland with 44,000 miles. Not gospel, but it saved me a headache. Going to compare one more dealer before I decide.

Hard-won lesson from my last deal: GAP, paint, and nitrogen are optional until you run the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V numbers without them. Do that before you talk monthly again. On “v — is this actually a good,” that was the fork that mattered for me. Verbal 'we'll take care of it' is not a plan. Climate here is different, so treat that as a local data point. I screenshotted the quote for later.

Walk if they won't put it on a buyer’s order. I would not wire money until I've seen the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V and the title situation in person or via a trusted PPI. That's the part that actually changes the decision. This is from a 2018 Cadillac CTS-V in Portland with 44,000 miles. Verbal 'we'll take care of it' is not a plan. Not letting add-ons ride along because everyone does.

Update from me: I finally have sale price, fees, and trade on separate lines for the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V. Might be overthinking it, but I'd rather overthink than overspend.

If I were shopping this, if they're pushing term length to shrink the payment, the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V price probably got worse. That's the part that actually changes the decision. If they can't show the line item, I assume it's hiding. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.

I'd slow the salesperson down here. In Portland, insurance quotes flipped a 2018 Cadillac CTS-V comparison for me more than the sale price did. Then the comparison gets honest. Do that first. If the VIN lookup is clean I'm still doing PPI.

I'd want competing paper, not competing stories. A written buyer’s order on the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V is worth more than any verbal “we’ll make it work.” If they balk, that's your answer. Verbal 'we'll take care of it' is not a plan. PPI guy I use is booked until next week, so I'm waiting.

Insurance and tax belong in the comparison, not as a surprise. A written buyer’s order on the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V is worth more than any verbal “we’ll make it work.” Do that before you talk monthly again. On “v — is this actually a good,” that was the fork that mattered for me. Happy to compare notes if your setup is different. If your situation is the opposite, ignore me. I asked for the buyer’s order in email, not a text.

Don't send a deposit on a phone quote. I would not wire money until I've seen the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V and the title situation in person or via a trusted PPI. Then the comparison gets honest. I'd want that in writing, not as a promise. Make the next action something you can finish this week. I'm in no rush to be a hero on it.

Treat this like a math problem, not a vibe. Ask for out-the-door on the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V with fees, add-ons, and rate on separate lines. Do that before you talk monthly again. If they can't show the line item, I assume it's hiding. Not trying to scare you — just skip the expensive first guess. I'll post OTD once I have two apples-to-apples sheets.

Compare apples to apples or you'll get spun. Call your insurer in Portland before you fall in love with the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V. Do that before you talk monthly again. This is from a 2018 Cadillac CTS-V in Portland with 44,000 miles. I'd want that in writing, not as a promise. I'll post OTD once I have two apples-to-apples sheets.

The trap is a pretty payment hiding a worse car price. I would not wire money until I've seen the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V and the title situation in person or via a trusted PPI. Screenshot the worksheet if you can. I'd want that in writing, not as a promise. Doing the boring step first on purpose.

OP update: I got two written quotes on the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V and the out-the-door gap is bigger than the ads made it look. I'd rather look cautious in this thread than stuck later.

Don't send a deposit on a phone quote. Two 2018 Cadillac CTS-V quotes only help if both include tax, title, and the same options. Then the comparison gets honest. Just my two cents from doing this recently. I'm in no rush to be a hero on it.

Insurance and tax belong in the comparison, not as a surprise. GAP, paint, and nitrogen are optional until you run the 2018 Cadillac CTS-V numbers without them. If they balk, that's your answer. On “v — is this actually a good,” that was the fork that mattered for me. When does it actually happen? I'd rather look cautious in this thread than stuck later.