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Physical buttons are disappearing again — good or bad?

BoostedTraveler51Community StarterNov 26, 20252021 BMW X5 xDrive40iSalt Lake City
2021 BMW X5 xDrive40i, about 37,000 miles. Automakers keep moving basic controls between touchscreens and physical buttons depending on the generation. What controls do you absolutely want to remain physical? I'm in Salt Lake City. If I fix it I'll come back and update the thread.
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EuroBuyer81Community StarterCommunity StarterNov 26, 2025permalink
I'd pick the setup I'll actually live with in slush. If Salt Lake City only sees a few real storms, a good all-weather on the 2021 BMW X5 can be the saner daily. That's where I'd start. Write the result down so the next test isn't a repeat of the last one. I refuse to clear codes until someone else sees them.
EuroGarage71Community StarterCommunity StarterNov 26, 2025permalink
I'd pick the setup I'll actually live with in slush. In Salt Lake City, dedicated winters on the 2021 BMW X5 paid off more than I expected on ice, even on plowed roads. Then you'll know the next fork. Post the numbers (or the code) and people can get more specific. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
OldSchoolBuyerCommunity StarterCommunity StarterNov 26, 2025permalink
I'd pick the setup I'll actually live with in slush. Watch brake clearance and overall diameter if you downsize winter wheels on the 2021 BMW X5. Then you'll know the next fork. The universe charges extra for guessing. I'll poke at it this weekend.
ApexRunnerCommunity StarterCommunity StarterNov 27, 2025permalink
I hear you, though I'd still want a second check. Watch brake clearance and overall diameter if you downsize winter wheels on the 2021 BMW X5. I'd do that before spending real money. On “good or bad,” that was the fork that mattered for me. Have you gotten a second quote in writing? Might be overthinking it, but I'd rather overthink than overspend.
DetailGarage95Community StarterCommunity StarterNov 26, 2025permalink
Salt and cold mornings punish cheap shortcuts. In Salt Lake City, dedicated winters on the 2021 BMW X5 paid off more than I expected on ice, even on plowed roads. That's where I'd start. On “good or bad,” that was the fork that mattered for me. I'd want that in writing, not as a promise. I already checked the easy fluid levels.
EuroGarage71Community StarterCommunity StarterNov 26, 2025permalink
I'd pick the setup I'll actually live with in slush. In Salt Lake City, dedicated winters on the 2021 BMW X5 paid off more than I expected on ice, even on plowed roads. Then you'll know the next fork. If you share a photo of the worksheet, easier to sanity-check. Wrote this up on my lunch break.
CanyonFan50Community StarterCommunity StarterNov 26, 2025permalink
Salt and cold mornings punish cheap shortcuts. Watch brake clearance and overall diameter if you downsize winter wheels on the 2021 BMW X5. Then you'll know the next fork. Parts cannon is a personality type I try to avoid. Not driving it hard until I know more.
ColdStartBuilder79Community StarterCommunity StarterNov 27, 2025permalink
Yes, with one caveat: If Salt Lake City only sees a few real storms, a good all-weather on the 2021 BMW X5 can be the saner daily. I'd do that before spending real money. Not gospel, but it saved me a headache. Cold start is when I can actually reproduce it.
JDMHunterCommunity StarterCommunity StarterNov 26, 2025permalink
I'd pick the setup I'll actually live with in slush. Watch brake clearance and overall diameter if you downsize winter wheels on the 2021 BMW X5. I'd do that before spending real money. On “good or bad,” that was the fork that mattered for me. Write the result down so the next test isn't a repeat of the last one. Video is ugly but it shows the hesitation.
JDMHunterCommunity StarterCommunity StarterNov 27, 2025permalink
This is a climate question as much as a tire question. If Salt Lake City only sees a few real storms, a good all-weather on the 2021 BMW X5 can be the saner daily. That's where I'd start. Time, temperature, and whether it's in gear are the notes that actually help a shop. Worth doing even if the car feels fine right now. If the story changes I'll post the new data.
OldSchoolBuyerCommunity StarterCommunity StarterNov 27, 2025permalink
This is a climate question as much as a tire question. If Salt Lake City only sees a few real storms, a good all-weather on the 2021 BMW X5 can be the saner daily. Then you'll know the next fork. The universe charges extra for guessing. A day of patience here is cheaper than a wrong part. This is me being the wet blanket on purpose.
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